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ridiculous act and putting him -- sending him away for 25 years, you know, what would that do? make him more bitter, more angry, and come out and do something worse? >> it's pretty incredible. well, thank you. and certainly something that is inspiring for many of us. certainly for me. reading that book. thanks again. >> thank you very much. all right. and thanks to all this is "piers morgan tonight." i do care what the people of new hampshire think. >> is he just too honest for his own good? or perhaps he's too moderate? and can a man whose daughters do this in a campaign ad really
make it to the white house? i'll ask jon huntsman and his daughters tonight, who just might be his secret weapon. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. we start with breaking news in it the penn state scandal. no police have any record of a report by assistant coach mike mcqueary. in an e-mail he reportedly said he talked with police about an alleged sexual assault by jerry sandusky. in the meantime, the charity that places kids with other homes now say the sandusky may have hosted six children back to the '60s. the authorities have been warned in new york and pennsylvania. a new judge has been assigned to the preliminary hearing scheduled for december 7th. the original judge had ties to the second mile charity. the question he is, how did jerry sandusky keep raising money despite all the rumors about his involvement in a sex scandal? one business donated $50,000 to
sandusky's family last year is the family clothes line. tracy bell is the star coordinator. tracy bell, obviously deeply concerning course of events in the last few days. you are one of the businesses that's donated money to this charity. how do you feel? >> we were blindsided by everything that has happened past week and a half. >> what rumors had you heard prior to this week? >> we officially had heard just a little gossip around town, some community as every community has. we had heard there were allegations going on, an investigation going on. as early as it this summer. >> i think what strikes everybody as kind of
incomprehensible is why, with all these rumors swirling, so many people hearing about what may have been going on, some people hearing about it for years, that nobody went to the police. why do you think that was? >> i'm not for sure the i know for a fact that my employer had confronted the second mile and asked about the allegations and the rumors that were going on. and he was told by the second mile organization that he was not under investigation, that the rumors were untrue and so he just kind of said okay and went on. and we continued to support the second mile. >> and when did that happen? >> that was this past summer, 2011, the golf tournament fund-raiser they have. >> one of your employees made a formal approach to the second mile charity and was reassured there was nothing in these rumors about jerry sandusky.
is that right? >> yes. >> who was that, from the second mile charity? >> i'm not at liberty to say. >> but you know who it was. >> my employer does. >> right. do you now believe that at the time you were told there was nothing to worry about that actually they knew that the charity was well aware of what was going on? >> i believe according to the media and according to the gran jury, he was sat down and not loued to be in the activities with children. >> it's pretty outrageous, isn't it? you've given $50,000 to a charity which is very, very best severely tainted and may turn
out to be harboring a sex monster. let's not beat about the bush here. what would you do about this, if anything? >> we are hoping to -- in the community to recover, we are hoping to find someone that will step up and be a leader and, you know, help our community. the main reason why we did donate to the second mile is because it was going to help kids in our community and in the surrounding communities. >> i mean, the terrible irony, of course, is if these allegations are are proven to be true, then far from p helping kids, one of the key people involved in the charity was abusing them on an industrial scale for years. >> yeah. that's -- it is heart wrenching that this has become the outcome of this. >> tracy, you live in the community, not far from penn
state university. >> yes. >> you've had students come into your store. what is the mood? that uncomfortable night when joe paterno was fired, when students turned out in his support. i think that was very ill-conceived. what would you describe the current mood of the students as? >> we're look for someone in our community to step up and be a leader. right now the university doesn't have a permanent president are we don't have a permanent a.d. we don't have a permanent football coach. so right now we're just looking at somebody to step up and be a leader. >> tracy bell, thank you very much. >> thank you, and i would like to say that we are donating $5 for every t-shirt we buy to the let go, let peace come in.org. the foundation, they are directly helping the kids that were in the recovery process,
are in the recovery process for the kids that were allegedly abused by jerry sandusky. >> thank you very much indeed. the biggest question in the penn state sex abuse scandal may be, how strong is the case against jerry sandusky legally. joining me is the chief of the sex crimes unit in the district attorney's office in new york. she's handling sexual misconduct consulting now and investigations. let me ask you, lisa, everybody is kind of assuming guilty here on the part of jerry sandusky. from a legal perspective, i would imagine that's a dangerous position to be adopted right now, isn't it? >> well, i think the prosecutor's office is definitely looking at all of the evidence. i think if you look at what you have here, you have multiple victims over a long period of time, many of whom did not know
each other. that makes for a stronger case. you have adult eyewitnesss to some of these acts. that makes for a very strong case. you have various corroborating evidence i've read about other adults who saw things that corroborated. some of these children's parents. so as these cases go, it's a fairly strong case for the prosecution. >> i want to play you a clip from the bob costas interview with jerry sandusky from yesterday. >> are you a pedophile? >> no. >> are you sexually attracted to young boys, to underage boys? >> am i sexually to underage boys? >> yes. >> sexually attracted? you know, i enjoy young people. i love to be around them. i -- but no i'm not sexually attracted to young boys. >> it took him 17 seconds to say no to a fairly obvious question. how ill-advised was that interview, do you think?
>> well, i'll say this, it's highly unusual for a defense attorney to have his client be interviewed in that fashion. for just that reason we saw. his words will be used against him or not. the prosecution is entitled to play that tape in court if he takes cross-examine him with it. i think everyone was struck by how long it took him to answer that, repeating the question back, saying again sexually attracted and then finally going on in an answer that meandered around for a while. i think in hindsight it was a -- not a great decision on his lawyer's part and i think it will hurt him at the trial. >> we're getting everyone piling in on sandusky. we had sarah palin leading a charge saying hang him from the highest tree, saying she would hold the rope and so on.
is that unhelpful to the legal process, having him convicted in the court of popular opinion? >> well, i think that our system is innocent until proven. the public is entitled to judge from the evidence that they're hearing from the grand jury report and the other evidence that they hear. i don't know that it's helpful to have people it at that level to convict him before he's had his trial. but, as we started out saying, this is a pretty strong case for the prosecution. >> it is. and it's a sickening case. there are obviously other people who have been caught up in this, most famous of all joe paterno, a legendary sports coach. what is your view of had his legal position here, in terms of potentially being involved in a cover-up from all that you've seen and read and heard? >> i'm not really prepared to discuss whether i think he was
involved in a cover-up. i think that remains to be seen. i think that the penn state board of trustees is clearly taking this very seriously, that they acted swiftly with some of the decisions they've already made. they've set up a committee to investigate this. and i think until all of the facts are out with who knew what and who said what to whom, i don't think it's really appropriate to start saying who should be charged and who should be guilty of a cover-up. >> it's raised the whole specter of priorities, hasn't it? and sense of, did commercial greed, did the striving for success on a football field override basic common ethics and moral decency here. >> well, that will definitely be one of the questions that the board of trustees' investigation will seek to answer, as they question everybody involved and
find out who knew what and who told what to whom. and then the next question they're going to ask them is why with. why did you turn this over and not follow p up on it? why didn't you call the police yourself? why when you heard that it didn't get reported to the police you didn't do something? there are a lot of questions that remain to be answered by the board of trustees' investigation. and it remains to be seen why exactly various people didn't do what we are all looking at now and think they should have done. >> i'm already seeing as a result of the jerry sandusky interview people coming forward, we saw one on anderson's show earlier, families now coming forward using that as not an excuse but a reason now to go after him legally, because they were so outraged by what he said. so in terms of a back firing strategy, about as bad as is possible, i would think. >> if that's what's happening, obviously it backfired more than just his words being used
against him. but anything that empowers a victim to come forward is always a good thing, so the prosecutor that i used to be for so long is happy to hear that. i hadn't heard that before. >> and from all of your experience in these kind of cases, when you heard jerry sandusky talking, what did your gut feel tell you about the kind of language that he was using and his behavioral pattern? >> well, as we mentioned before, the fact that it took hill a -- him a while to answer that one question, the way he meandered around some other questions, his referring to horsing around and things like that, it didn't strike me as a very good defensive posture, let's put it that way, coming from a lawyer. and, if all the facts that we've heard both in the grand jury report and we've seen in the media are true, he fits the profile of a classic pedophile, from who he chose as his victims. it's fairly classic to choose victims who have issues and the
whole second mile foundation was said up to help young kids who had issues, who came from dysfunctional families. so the victim population is classic. the behavior that i'ved readed that he engaged in both in report and otherwise, the starting with innocuous kind of touching and moving from there, that's classic pedophile behavior. buying them gifts, buying them with things that they can't otherwise afford, taking them to all of these games, creating a life for them that these poor kids just could never have lived without him doing that. and then moving ahead from there to taking advantage of them, if all of that is true, that's classic pedophile behavior. >> absolutely horrific. lisa friel, thank you very much. coming up, the nuclear threat from iran, i'll ask one of the country's top politicians, are they making nuclear weapons? daddy, come in the water!
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a big international story is that president ahmadinejad and iran's nuclear program. the israel president talked about the iran nuclear program. we have the secretary-general of iran's human rights council and top adviser to iran's supreme leader. welcome, doctor. i had shimon peres, they hang people, arrest opposition, shoot around, spread arms, encourage every center of terror all over the world. iran is a danger. and he also said that iran is actively seeking to make a nuclear weapon that they can potentially use against israel. what is your reaction to that? >> while this kind of allegation is quite interesting from a person who is from a country that already possess nuclear weapons and is a renegade country in the eye of mpt. it is good for israel to look at
the dismal record of atrocities committing to palestinian for over 60 years. iran's nuclear program is fully paced for completely and i'm sure i don't have the slightest doubt the united states and other countries, they know that iran's nuclear program is completely peaceful and it's a matter of pride for us. it's a great achievement for iran that we have this capability. >> if as you say it's all completely peaceful and above-bored, why don't you just let everybody come have a look and inspect them in the peace and tranquility that you talk of? >> well, the cameras of iaea are 24 hours working over there. numerous inspectors are coming from the agency to iran. there is no shortage of visiting iran. it seems that there is strong will that this circle of pressure in iran should be kept for political purposes. but in reality as the merit of
the case is concerned, iran's capability is a matter of pride. it is nonmilitary. it is for peaceful use. and iran is the only country in the middle east which possess nuclear power plant and is capable of this sophisticated technology of producing fuel. and we are investing for r & d in this area to get to the edge of science and technology, and we are ready to share it under mpt umbrella with neighboring countries for economical gains as well. >> i suppose the big problem that you have is you have a president who has gone on the record as saying he doesn't believe in the holocaust and he he would like to eradicate israel off the face of the earth. so when you couple those statements from your political leader with the fact that you are embracing nuclear power, it's hardly surprising that
people are so fearful, is it? certainly in israel. >> well, if a person doesn't believe in holocaust, we cannot push him to believe it. it's up to him to believe it or not. but the idea that -- >> do you believe in it? >> holocaust is a political matter. while it is a professional issue whether it happens, how much it p happens, how long it happens, what was the depth and all this. but i think it's quite irrational that people should be
punished if they have the slightest doubt about that. it's unprecedented in the modern time to hold the belief should be so much pursuit by international community. but anyhow, i think we -- iran's policy is not to eradicate any people from the earth. what we say, the millions of palestinians should not be deprived from the basic rights. it doesn't make sense that the people coming from manhattan, new york and other places of the world they are considered first citizen of this land, palestine, but indigenous people born over there are kicked out of that place and living in tent outside. this is the issue. so the problem is not creating such a holocaust again on that land. our view is that, why not like centuries muslims christians and jews could live together in such
beautiful piece of land which is called palestine? >> do you feel threatened in iran in the sense that most world leaders now are being openly hostile towards iran, whether it's president sarkozy, president obama, president medvedev. everyone is cueing up to say you are a dangerous country. they are fearful of developing nuclear power to use as weapons. when you have all the leaders cueing you up, i would think the obvious thing would be to defend yourselves. the obvious question to me is, if you're not developing nuclear weapons, which you are saying other countries have, israel to pakistan and certainly america, many other countries have nuclear weapons, why wouldn't iran want to have a nuclear weapon to defend itself? >> well, there are two reasons.
number one, there is a -- from the leader ayatollah khomeini it is -- to use masses destructive weapons. this is a very strong ban on production of that inside the country. secondly, nuclear weapon does not add to our capability. it is more liability than said. already we possess a very strok defensive muscle, which is deterrent enough for any eminent threat. this is the cornerstone of our defense. we think we are very much capable of defending ourself with the weaponry that we have. and we don't need nuclear weapons. pakistan possess, they're no more secure than us. even israel is no more secure than us. iran is much more secure than the persons in the middle east. we don't have a nuclear weapon, and this is a very great achievement >> a number of the republican candidates for the
presidency have stated they're prepared to go to war with iran. how do you view military action against you? >> well, i mean, before assessing these claims on the military and defense and security basis, i think this is a good distraction from the basic problems in the united states. solving the economical issue seems very difficult so going from that and shifting the attention to iran is much more easy. so in my view it is a very prudent game in the political competition rather he than the merit of the issue. but we in iran consider threats seriously, but this does not mean that we should be disturbed. we're used to the language. it's not just yesterday or
tomorrow which may come. so we assess the claims but we are not disturbed. we are very much confident people and we take the issue with patience. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. coming up, jon huntsman, the gop candidate with the most foreign policy experience, what does he think about what i've just been discussing? jon huntsman was president g . [ dad ] i love this new soup. it's his two favorite things in one... burgers and soup. did you hear him honey? burgers and soup. love you. they're cute. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
jon huntsman was president obama's ambassador to china, he's also running for president. jon huntsman, before we get stuck into the gop race, i just interviewed regarding iran's nuclear program. as far as he's concerned, all very, very peaceful. nothing to worry about. what was your reaction? >> complete nonsense. he's a first-rate propagandist. whether it's the iaea reports, intelligence estimates, people who are knowledgeable and in the know have to say about iran's aspirations, but moreover when with you couple their aspirations with the kind of
language and threats they have used in the region, it makes for a very dangerous and incendiary combination. so when you stop to consider that they've got thousands of centrifuges that are spinning out of which they're going to at some point have highly enriched product and then beyond that, at some point, they're going to have enough fissile material for a weapon, that's going to change the balance of power and the dynamics in the region. so we're going to have a choice in this country at some point, and that is, can you live with a nuclear iran? and if you can live with a nuclear iran, i think the proliferation implications are very dangerous. if not unsustainable in the region. that is to say that saudi arabia will likely acquire a weapon, probably turkey, maybe egypt
even though we don't know who is in charge there at the moment. so the proliferation concerns are very real and i'm not sure they're sustainable in the middle east. so then you have to say, if you can't live with a nuclear iran, then you've got to keep all options on the table. and i think that's kind of where we're headed realistically. >> i mean, the only option if that is the case is surely some kind of military intervention. the question then becomes, what kind? obviously we've seen boots on the ground in iraq that is deemed by many to have been pretty unsuccessful in the way it was implemented and extremely costly both to american lives and indeed iraqi lives but also financially at a time america can't afford it now. then you have the libyan way in
getting rid gadhafi, which was a backdoor policy behind the french and english and so on. what is the right way to deal with iran if they're going to flagrantly ignore any international opinion on this? >> well, i think that's exactly what's going on. you layer sanction upon sanction, and i don't think in the end the sanctions have much of an impact. sanctions have been taken to the u.n. security council. you could go for another round of sanctions and that should probably be tried. you can go after their state bank. you can sanction the elite, sanction those traveling in and out. you can tighten the nooses in ways that will make life a lot more difficult from an economic standpoint. but my sense is their ultimate aspiration is become a nuclear power in which case sanctions aren't probably going to get you there. that means likely we're going to have a conversation with israel at some point. and as we kind of approach that point, you know, it's important for the united states to remind the world what it means to be a friend and ally of the united states. in the case of israel, that hasn't been statedd clearly in a long time. i think giving some context to this whole discussion before it's too late is to remind the world what it means to be a friend and ally of the united states. there are certain security and
military implications and commitment that's go with that, certain economic relationships that go with that. but i think that is a statement that needs to be made at some point because the region can be a sea of change and uncertainty as we're finding today, but there is one certain element and that is our relationship with israel. i think it needs to be tight. i think we need to coordinate and i think we need to make realistic appraisals and assessesments of the situation. >> when with hear you talk, jon huntsman, about foreign affairs in particular, it's always impressive. you're smart about it, you're articulate. i even spoke to you once and you spoke to me he in mandarin from your time in china. then i see someone like herman cain who is certainly doing
better than you in the polls actually saying after he stumbled about libya, he didn't appear to know what libya was let alone where it is. he said today, i'm not expected to know about foreign policy. i thought it was breathtaking from a man who wants to be president. are you frustrated that you are still lagging in the polls when the credentials that you seem to offer at this very challenging time for america, particularly on the international stage, seem so much more impressive than any of your rivals. >> well, we're still in the preseason, piers. we're still in the preseason. we're in the primary phase. and that means there's a lot in the way of theatrics and show business that are merged into politics. we're still weeks and weeks away from when the people here in new
hampshire are going to turn out to the ballot box. and when they stare down that ballot box, an interesting thing is going to take place. the drama and the theater of the preseason will be behind us, and they're going to have to ask themselves the fundamental question -- who can actually perform the job of president of the united states? who actually has the background, the temperament, the experience, the world view and the vision in order to get this country where it needs to be? the misery index is up, unemployment is up, joblessness, our place in the world the uncertainty surrounding where our economy goes. the hope and change that was campaigned on a few short years ago, there's nothing to show for it. but i think beyond all of that
we've got a significant deficit in the area of trust, and i think that is going to drive people while they're at the ballot box to really consider the trust element of politics. there's no trust left between the people of this country and our institutions of power. whether that's congress, whether that's the executive branch, whether it's wall street wit banks too big to fail when this president had an opportunity to address it on his watch. we have a deficit in economics, we have a deficit as it relates to trust. and when people stare down that ballot box as they will do here in new hampshire january 10th, all the drama and all the show business behind us, they're finally going to have to ask that fundamental question, who can do the job? who's got the experience, the track record, the background, the ability to infuse a new level of trust into a system that desperately, desperately needs it? in those conditions, piers, i think we do well. >> let me jump in there. got to go to a break and i'm worried you're going to break the world record in mentioning new hampshire in one segment. i'm going to come back after the break and ask you why have you put all your eggs in one basket? and is it going to work? >> i'm not pandering . i don't care what the rest of the country thinks or feels. somebody, get her a pony! [ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone.
>> i'm not pandering . i don't care what the rest of the country thinks or feels. that's not important. i do care about what the people of new hampshire feel. >> gop candidate jon huntsman in new hampshire yesterday he. to say you didn't care what the rest of america thought, pretty brave step to take as a presidential nominee potentially. >> let me put it a little more artfully, piers. that is to say, i don't care what the polls say in the rest of the country. i do care what people think in the rest of the country. i don't care what the polls say. i do care about where the numbers are here in new hampshire and where they're headed. this is a state that is a level
playing field for politics. i like that. i want to do the same thing for the american economy, for businesses big and small. i want to provide a level playing field which we don't have today. but it means you can come into new hampshire without a whole lot of money, you can come into new hampshire without a large investigation, senators have done it, some have won the presidency, some haven't many have come very, very close. but the key here is you must earn people's vote. it can't be done through artificiality, it can't be done through parachuting in once or twice every month. you've got to be on the ground. you've got to earn it. you've got to appear in town hall meetings tonight, piers. we did our 101st public event here in new hampshire. no one has worked this market
nearly as hard as we have. >> and yet -- >> we're at the house parties, town hall meetings. >> let me jump in. you have done all these meetings, immersed yourself in new hampshire. yet the polls in new hampshire -- let's focus on that for a moment -- show a massive gap between you and mitt romney. as things stand he's going to walk it, isn't he? >> he has name recognition. that's only natural. he's been at it for many, many years. he's been running for president for a whole lot of years. he was governor of an adjoining state. because you have name recognition doesn't mean you have a deep level of belief in who you are or how you might go on ultimately to beat barack obama. so if you stop to consider that 89% of the people based on the last poll in this state are
undecided. so whatever numbers you look at, have to deal with a very small percentage of people who have actually made up their minds. if you stop to think 89% are still undecided, that's a lot of blue sky for a person like me. you can come into this state and articulate a message to people who want to know your heart and soul. they want to know that you are genuine, that you are authentic and got what it takes to lead this country and to move it forward. they're going to render a judgment on january 10th, and they're not going to coalesce around anybody as is typically the case until probably a week to ten days out. and then they're going to start coalescing around the candidates or the candidate who has put in the sweat equity, who's been here in the state, who's actually put forward the kinds of ideas that are believable and doable and tied to one's background. so when i get to talk about the tax reform i delivered to the people utah, historic tax cuts, when i talk about living overseas four times, three times a u.s. ambassador and the ability we have to rebuild our manufacturing muscle, when they want to talk about education reform, where i was a governor who signed the second voucher bill in this entire nation for education, they like that. they gravitate and the buzz factor is getting our name out more and more as we spend more time in this state. i feel it, i sense it, and we're connecting with the folks. >> let's see how you're
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we need you to get involved to make sure our next president is based on substance. >> not sound bites. >> check out our dad at jon 2012.com and follow us on twitter. ♪ i will america ♪ one voice united >> a slightly unorthodox campaign video from the huntsman daughters. ladies, welcome. i can tell you you're already having a good effect here. i'm reading a tweet that says, thanks piers morgan, hubby just saw huntsmans' anges and i lost a vote for herman cain.
>> oh, my goodness. we're doing what we can. >> let me turn to your father a moment. jon, a rather unusual campaigners here, are they good or catastrophe in your campaign. >> watch it, dad. >> we'll have to let the historians answer that. here's the reality in my life, piers, i get five hits on youtube. they put on this cornball youtube spoofing another candidate's campaign and they get millions of hits. >> maryann, i loved that video. i tweeted to that effect. i think it's very entertaining and i think you are potentially secret weapons for your father. but tell me this, why is it that father is not getting more support in the polls, do you think? what is it about him that isn't quite firing? and what can you do about it? well, he hasn't had a chance to have america see him yet. and i'm going to go out on a limb and say this but he is the only candidate that can give barack obama the run for his
money and we hope that america can see that eventually. >> libby, let me bring you in. tell me some policies about your father that we may not know. what is the secret jon huntsman like. >> careful. >> well, he's very honest. i think that's rare to see today in the field. he goes with his luck. if you look, he doesn't pander. if you look at his record, it's very conservative and i just think that he's a true leader and i think the american public is just starting to get to know him and abby, one of the charges against your dad is that he's boring. is he boring? >> not at you will. where do you think we get our humor from? from him, honestly. >> jon, three great defenses from your daughters. but when it comes to new hampshire, when it comes to this big vote, you're not going to win just because you have three appealing daughters, are you? what is it about you that is going to turn you around?
you've put all of your chips on this hole and you've got to win there. what is the one thing that is going to drive you past mitt romney? >> new hampshire loves an underdog. they don't like to be told for whom to vote. they like the candidate to earn it based upon core beliefs and a message right for our nation at this time in history. we're connecting on all fronts, peers, and we have gone from margin of error to moving upward and you combine thissed a da line stevens shoe leather work on the ground with the kind of ads that have been put up and i say that we're going to be moving in a direction that will cause new hampshire to do what it always does, and that's uppen conventional wisdom. hang on for the ride. >> and mary anne, in terms of your father's fashion sense -- >> oh, boy. >> did you color coordinate his shirt and his hair tonight, or not?
>> i always do. and i will say, i think he got a lot of props for his tie at the last debate and i actually bought him that tie. >> well, you've also said that on your twitter, the three of you, you said that the other contestants, the other candidates in that debate all had dodgey haircuts. >> do you disagree? >> it wouldn't be for me to comment. but who had the last head count? >> well, i think everybody must have gone to the same barber before the debate. >> you three are very active on twitter and you're quite naughty on twitter. jon, do you worry that your daughters are going to land you -- you're going to wake up one morning and all hell has broken loose on twitter? >> piers, i don't have a chance, i know it's going to happen at some point but i ask say let me get out there and campaign. >> how does romney know anything about china? he's only been there once for the olympics and panda express
doesn't count. >> how can you not laugh at that? we were just having some fun. >> it is funny but this is not conventional ways of running campaigns. >> this is not at all -- >> this is not a conventional election cycle. >> you can say that again. but, abby, who is controlling you during this campaign? is anybody controls these campaigns or what is going through your minds? >> look, we're doing this for a very serious reason. we're doing this to introduce
our dad to america and really let people know who he is. and while we're being funny, we're being serious in what we're saying. so i think our campaign trusts us. i think they know what they are only out there to get his message out as best as we can. >> liddy, are there more videos coming? have you got any more shocking surprises for snus. >> i guess you'll just have to wait and see. i don't know. >> you'll be the first to know, piers. but there's always something up our sleeves. >> well, i think you're a breath of fresh air, i've got to say, to this campaign. and you've brought a much needed glamour. i thank you jon huntsman. >> piers, you're the only one who can start with a discussion of nuclear weapons and end up with a haircut of the candidates. >> the perfect show. the huntsmans, thank you all very much. coming up, my no holds bar
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